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This document is an excerpt from a deposition transcript involving Ghislaine Maxwell and Todd Blanche. The discussion revolves around Maxwell's knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's associates, travel, and records, including questions about Bill Gates, Reid Hoffman, and the existence of lists of masseuses or contacts maintained by Epstein's staff like John Alessi. Maxwell denies direct knowledge of certain relationships and travel, and expresses suspicion about a previously published list related to Epstein.
People (8)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Ghislaine Maxwell | Deponent/Witness |
Answering questions during deposition
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| Todd Blanche | Questioning Attorney |
Asking questions during deposition
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| Boris | Acquaintance of Maxwell |
Met once, potentially related to Epstein, may have been chief of staff
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| Mr. Gates | Acquaintance of Epstein |
Traveled with Mr. Epstein on his plane or visited his houses
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| Mr. Epstein | Subject of inquiry |
Jeffrey Epstein, discussed in relation to travel, houses, relationships, and lists
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| Reid Hoffman | Silicon Valley Guy |
Known by Maxwell through friends in San Francisco, questioned about relationship and travel with Epstein
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| John Alessi | Epstein's staff |
Had a Rolodex with names and numbers of people who came to Epstein's house, described as potentially chief of staff o...
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| Boyfriend of Maxwell | Victim of blackmail |
Blackmailed related to a compiled list and its purposes
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| MAGNA LEGAL SERVICES |
Appears in footer, likely the transcription service
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Timeline (2 events)
2000s
Friendship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein, and possibly Bill Gates, occurred or was known during this period.
mid '90s to 2000s
Period when Ghislaine Maxwell was 'general manager' for Epstein, and questions arise about lists of masseuses.
Locations (5)
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Location where Ghislaine Maxwell may have met Boris
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Visited by Ghislaine Maxwell once or twice
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Referred to as a destination for flights with Epstein
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Reid Hoffman is from here
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Ghislaine Maxwell's friends and a close friend are from here, connected to Reid Hoffman
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Relationships (6)
met him, I think, once. I may have met him actually at 71st Street.
friendship was after, you know, it was in the late 2000s.
Mr. Gates traveled with Mr. Epstein on his plane to any of his houses?
Reid is a Silicon Valley guy. Through my friends in San Francisco.
Do you know whether Mr. Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman? ... Did you ever observe Mr. Hoffman flying anywhere with you or Mr. Epstein? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know. / No.
John Alessi had a Rolodex that he kept the names and numbers of all the people that came to the house... like his chief of staff who could find whatever he needed.
Key Quotes (5)
"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. That -- all that stuff that came out of that book, I now find suspect."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. Now, I'm not saying it's all fake. I don't know what's real and what's not. I don't --"Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: know what name is true. Now that it's been to my mind anyway, now that it has been, without a doubt, contaminated and possibly fraudulent, I'm not -- I don't know."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So --because I only was with Epstein, even at best, half the time. So when I was there, he had like his chief of staff who could find whatever he needed. And when I wasn't there, he had to rely on somebody else, right? So it'd be that John Alessi or whoever else."Source
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Quote #4
"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- the latter. (referring to a list of people that might need to be contacted, including masseuses, rather than just masseuses)"Source
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his -- I don't know if he was chief of staff or
whoever, Boris. And I met him, I think, once. I may
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That list, do you know how that list was
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created?
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have met him actually at 71st Street. I may have
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. That -- all that
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once. I don't remember if I met him there or at a
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restaurant, I don't remember. And that would've been
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because of Epstein, because Epstein was friendly with
Boris and Boris -- that's all I remember.
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TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
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Mr. Gates traveled with Mr. Epstein on his plane to
any of his houses?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So if that -- that
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friendship was after, you know, it was in the late
2000s. So if I met him -- like I said, I went to
Epstein's house maybe once or twice. Maybe I met him
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there. I don't remember.
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TODD BLANCHE: So you don't
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I wouldn't know if
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he had been on Epstein's plane.
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TODD BLANCHE: And you weren't
you
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don't recall ever being on the plane with him flying
to the island or to anywhere?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: Do you know somebody named 23
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Reid Hoffman?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do.
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TODD BLANCHE: Who's that?
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stuff that came out of that book, I now find suspect.
TODD BLANCHE: As far as part of the
story you just told us?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. Now, I'm not
saying it's all fake. I don't know what's real and
what's not. I don't --
TODD BLANCHE: Understood.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL:
know what name is
true. Now that it's been to my mind anyway, now that
it has been, without a doubt, contaminated and
possibly fraudulent, I'm not -- I don't know. I
mean, obviously the numbers that I recognize are my
own, those are real.
But how it was actually ended up put
together and compiled and the purposes for it, for
which then they blackmailed my boyfriend, now I'm
just no.
TODD BLANCHE: Over the years when you
were serving as like the general manager, so the mid
'90s all the way into the 2000s. Did you or do you
know whether anyone maintained a list of all the
masseuses, like a running list?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So there would've --
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Reid is a Silicon
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Valley guy.
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so there's two things -- well, three ways. So I know
that the house itself, John Alessi had a Rolodex that
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TODD BLANCHE: Is what?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Silicon Valley.
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TODD BLANCHE: And how do you know him?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Through my friends in
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: Or getting massages?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. No.
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TODD BLANCHE: So there was
there's a
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list of multiple masseuses that is floating around.
I think you had in your discovery. I think you were
just talking about that.
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San Francisco. I have a I used to have a very
close friend who is in San Francisco who's part of
that whole -- I have several, actually, or had.
TODD BLANCHE: So is that a relationship
you had kind of separate and apart from Mr. Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Separate.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
Mr. Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know.
TODD BLANCHE: Did you ever observe
Mr. Hoffman flying anywhere with you or Mr. Epstein?
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he kept the names and numbers of all the people that
came to the house so that he could call.
So --because I only was with Epstein, even
at best, half the time. So when I was there, he had
like his chief of staff who could find whatever he
needed. And when I wasn't there, he had to rely on
somebody else, right? So it'd be that John Alessi or
whoever else.
So everybody -- whoever was traveling with
him or wherever he was, he needed somebody else to
access information. So he had an assistant chief who
was his secretary, who would be the one that would
update his computer, you know, like everybody has an
address book.
TODD BLANCHE:
But was what you're
it makes sense. I'm
describing, which I'm not
just -- was that a list of masseuses or a list of
people that might need to be contacted, which would,
necessarily, include a lot of masseuses?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- the latter.
TODD BLANCHE: And did you update that?
Like were you part of were you one of the people
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his -- I don't know if he was chief of staff or
whoever, Boris. And I met him, I think, once. I may
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That list, do you know how that list was
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created?
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have met him actually at 71st Street. I may have
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. That -- all that
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once. I don't remember if I met him there or at a
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restaurant, I don't remember. And that would've been
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because of Epstein, because Epstein was friendly with
Boris and Boris -- that's all I remember.
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TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
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Mr. Gates traveled with Mr. Epstein on his plane to
any of his houses?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So if that -- that
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friendship was after, you know, it was in the late
2000s. So if I met him -- like I said, I went to
Epstein's house maybe once or twice. Maybe I met him
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there. I don't remember.
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TODD BLANCHE: So you don't
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I wouldn't know if
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he had been on Epstein's plane.
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TODD BLANCHE: And you weren't
you
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don't recall ever being on the plane with him flying
to the island or to anywhere?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: Do you know somebody named 23
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Reid Hoffman?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do.
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Page 183
1
TODD BLANCHE: Who's that?
1
stuff that came out of that book, I now find suspect.
TODD BLANCHE: As far as part of the
story you just told us?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. Now, I'm not
saying it's all fake. I don't know what's real and
what's not. I don't --
TODD BLANCHE: Understood.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL:
know what name is
true. Now that it's been to my mind anyway, now that
it has been, without a doubt, contaminated and
possibly fraudulent, I'm not -- I don't know. I
mean, obviously the numbers that I recognize are my
own, those are real.
But how it was actually ended up put
together and compiled and the purposes for it, for
which then they blackmailed my boyfriend, now I'm
just no.
TODD BLANCHE: Over the years when you
were serving as like the general manager, so the mid
'90s all the way into the 2000s. Did you or do you
know whether anyone maintained a list of all the
masseuses, like a running list?
Page 185
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So there would've --
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Reid is a Silicon
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3
Valley guy.
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so there's two things -- well, three ways. So I know
that the house itself, John Alessi had a Rolodex that
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TODD BLANCHE: Is what?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Silicon Valley.
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TODD BLANCHE: And how do you know him?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Through my friends in
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: Or getting massages?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. No.
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TODD BLANCHE: So there was
there's a
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list of multiple masseuses that is floating around.
I think you had in your discovery. I think you were
just talking about that.
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San Francisco. I have a I used to have a very
close friend who is in San Francisco who's part of
that whole -- I have several, actually, or had.
TODD BLANCHE: So is that a relationship
you had kind of separate and apart from Mr. Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Separate.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
Mr. Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know.
TODD BLANCHE: Did you ever observe
Mr. Hoffman flying anywhere with you or Mr. Epstein?
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he kept the names and numbers of all the people that
came to the house so that he could call.
So --because I only was with Epstein, even
at best, half the time. So when I was there, he had
like his chief of staff who could find whatever he
needed. And when I wasn't there, he had to rely on
somebody else, right? So it'd be that John Alessi or
whoever else.
So everybody -- whoever was traveling with
him or wherever he was, he needed somebody else to
access information. So he had an assistant chief who
was his secretary, who would be the one that would
update his computer, you know, like everybody has an
address book.
TODD BLANCHE:
But was what you're
it makes sense. I'm
describing, which I'm not
just -- was that a list of masseuses or a list of
people that might need to be contacted, which would,
necessarily, include a lot of masseuses?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- the latter.
TODD BLANCHE: And did you update that?
Like were you part of were you one of the people
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MAGNA
LEGAL SERVICES
47 (Pages 182 to 185)
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