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This document is an excerpt from an interview transcript, likely a deposition or testimony, involving Ghislaine Maxwell and Todd Blanche, with a brief interjection from David Markus. The discussion covers Jeffrey Epstein's alleged ties to intelligence agencies, his relationships with various individuals including Ehud Barak and his brother Mark Epstein, his health conditions (heart and testosterone use), and questions surrounding his legal plea deal in Florida involving Bill Barr and Mr. Acosta, as well as his death.
People (11)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| GHISLAINE MAXWELL | Interviewee |
Answering questions about Jeffrey Epstein and others.
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| TODD BLANCHE | Interviewer |
Asking questions to Ghislaine Maxwell.
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| Mr. Epstein | Subject of discussion |
Jeffrey Epstein, discussed regarding intelligence agencies, relationships, health, and legal issues.
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| Mr. Barr | Author |
Wrote a book called 'Space Relations'.
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| Bill Barr | Former Attorney General |
Discussed in relation to Jeffrey Epstein and a plea deal in Florida.
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| Ehud Barak | Politician |
Mentioned by Ghislaine Maxwell as someone with a close relationship to Mr. Epstein.
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| Mark Epstein | Jeffrey Epstein's brother |
Discussed in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's family relationships.
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| Jeffrey | Jeffrey Epstein |
Mentioned as the person through whom Ghislaine Maxwell knew Mark Epstein.
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| Mr. Acosta | Associated with legal process |
Mentioned in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's plea deal in Florida.
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| Donald Barr | Former Headmaster |
Former headmaster of the Dalton School.
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| DAVID MARKUS | Participant in interview |
Calls for a break.
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| Mossad |
Mentioned as a potential intelligence agency that Mr. Epstein might have received money from.
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| Dalton School |
Donald Barr was a former headmaster of this school.
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| Magna Legal Services |
Indicating the entity transcribing or providing legal services for the document.
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Timeline (4 events)
Discussion about Mr. Epstein's heart condition.
Discussion about Jeffrey Epstein's plea deal in Florida.
Florida
Discussion about Mr. Epstein's death (suicide or other cause).
Relationships (8)
Discussions about his activities, health, and other relationships.
Question about Epstein getting money from an intelligence agency, including Mossad, which Maxwell denies knowledge of.
Maxwell states Barak had a 'very close relationship' with Epstein.
Maxwell describes their relationship as 'brotherly' but with periods of closeness and irritation.
Maxwell states she knew Mark Epstein 'Through Jeffrey'.
Todd Blanche states Donald Barr was a former headmaster of the Dalton School.
Questioned if Bill Barr had any role in Epstein's plea deal, Maxwell says she 'never heard that'.
Mentioned in context of Epstein's plea deal with Mr. Acosta.
Key Quotes (5)
"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, I don't believe so, but I wouldn't know. I mean, I would be very surprised if he did. I don't think so. No."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Off the top of my, head, I can think of Ehud Barak."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not that close, but friendly enough. I mean, you know."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, they were brotherly, but I think that -- I don't know. I don't know. They had periods when they were closer and then when they weren't. I think sometimes Epstein found his brother irritating."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I never heard that. (referring to Bill Barr's role in Epstein's plea deal)"Source
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Page 190
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not deliberately.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. And did you know --
we asked this we talked about this a little bit
earlier, but just to put a finer point on it. Did
you ever know that Mr. -- did you ever -- were you
ever told -- did you ever think that Mr. Epstein was
getting any money from any intelligence agency,
including Mossad?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, I don't believe
so, but I wouldn't know. I mean, I would be very
surprised if he did. I don't think so. No.
TODD BLANCHE: We've talked about a lot of
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: All right.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember any
conversations with Epstein about a book that Mr. Barr
wrote called Space Relations?
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that.
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names and I'm sure we've -- there's some that we
haven't covered. Are there any foreign nationals
so right now we've talked about some British, the
Royal Family a little bit, and maybe high society
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folks in Britain.
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Were there any international businessmen
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or politicians that had a very close relationship or
a close relationship with Mr. Epstein, that we
haven't already talked about?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Off the top of my,
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head, I can think of Ehud Barak.
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TODD BLANCHE: You said that Mr. Epstein
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at some point in the mid to late '90s he started
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taking testosterone. Did you ever know him to take
any other drugs?
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pills for his heart, I think, but I don't no
other -- no substances.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Other than what he
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told me, no. He never shared anything, but he did
take pills. I don't know what -- I don't know
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TODD BLANCHE: And we're jumping around a
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little bit.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry.
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TODD BLANCHE: Sorry. Do you know someone
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named Donald Barr?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: He is -- I can represent to
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you, was a former headmaster of the Dalton School,
which you mentioned earlier.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, he took
TODD BLANCHE: What -- do you know
anything about his heart condition? I know we talked
about this at, you know, 9:45 this morning. But do
you know anything about his heart condition, beyond
that you understood he had a heart condition that
affected his ability to have sex?
anything above that. And like I said, he did the
testosterone, which made him mean.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I've never heard of
TODD BLANCHE: About aliens and sex?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. No.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
well, have you ever met the former Attorney General
of the United States Bill Barr?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember whether
Mr. Epstein knew him or whether his name ever came up
in conversations you had with Mr. Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't recall any.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Did you have a
relationship or know -- I'm using "relationship," but
I appreciate you don't like that word.
Do you have -- did you know Mr. Epstein's
brother Mark Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
TODD BLANCHE: How did you know him?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Through Jeffrey.
TODD BLANCHE: How would you describe your
relationship; close, friendly?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: My personal?
TODD BLANCHE: Yes.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not that close, but
friendly enough. I mean, you know.
TODD BLANCHE: How was Jeffrey Epstein's
relationship with his brother Mark from what you
observed?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, they were
brotherly, but I think that -- I don't know. I don't
know. They had periods when they were closer and
then when they weren't. I think sometimes Epstein
found his brother irritating.
TODD BLANCHE: And I think I know the
answers, given what you just said about Bill Barr,
but did you ever hear any from Mr. Epstein or
anybody else -- that Bill Barr had any role in
Mr. Epstein getting a good plea deal in Florida, or
any role in that process with Mr. Acosta?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I never heard that.
TODD BLANCHE: I think you said this in an
interview, but if I'm wrong forgive me. Do you have
a view of Mr. Epstein of whether he committed suicide
or whether something else happened?
DAVID MARKUS: Can we take a break?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not deliberately.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. And did you know --
we asked this we talked about this a little bit
earlier, but just to put a finer point on it. Did
you ever know that Mr. -- did you ever -- were you
ever told -- did you ever think that Mr. Epstein was
getting any money from any intelligence agency,
including Mossad?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, I don't believe
so, but I wouldn't know. I mean, I would be very
surprised if he did. I don't think so. No.
TODD BLANCHE: We've talked about a lot of
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: All right.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember any
conversations with Epstein about a book that Mr. Barr
wrote called Space Relations?
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that.
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names and I'm sure we've -- there's some that we
haven't covered. Are there any foreign nationals
so right now we've talked about some British, the
Royal Family a little bit, and maybe high society
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folks in Britain.
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Were there any international businessmen
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or politicians that had a very close relationship or
a close relationship with Mr. Epstein, that we
haven't already talked about?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Off the top of my,
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head, I can think of Ehud Barak.
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TODD BLANCHE: You said that Mr. Epstein
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at some point in the mid to late '90s he started
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taking testosterone. Did you ever know him to take
any other drugs?
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pills for his heart, I think, but I don't no
other -- no substances.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Other than what he
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told me, no. He never shared anything, but he did
take pills. I don't know what -- I don't know
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TODD BLANCHE: And we're jumping around a
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little bit.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry.
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TODD BLANCHE: Sorry. Do you know someone
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named Donald Barr?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
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TODD BLANCHE: He is -- I can represent to
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you, was a former headmaster of the Dalton School,
which you mentioned earlier.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, he took
TODD BLANCHE: What -- do you know
anything about his heart condition? I know we talked
about this at, you know, 9:45 this morning. But do
you know anything about his heart condition, beyond
that you understood he had a heart condition that
affected his ability to have sex?
anything above that. And like I said, he did the
testosterone, which made him mean.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I've never heard of
TODD BLANCHE: About aliens and sex?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. No.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether
well, have you ever met the former Attorney General
of the United States Bill Barr?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember whether
Mr. Epstein knew him or whether his name ever came up
in conversations you had with Mr. Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't recall any.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Did you have a
relationship or know -- I'm using "relationship," but
I appreciate you don't like that word.
Do you have -- did you know Mr. Epstein's
brother Mark Epstein?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
TODD BLANCHE: How did you know him?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Through Jeffrey.
TODD BLANCHE: How would you describe your
relationship; close, friendly?
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: My personal?
TODD BLANCHE: Yes.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not that close, but
friendly enough. I mean, you know.
TODD BLANCHE: How was Jeffrey Epstein's
relationship with his brother Mark from what you
observed?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, they were
brotherly, but I think that -- I don't know. I don't
know. They had periods when they were closer and
then when they weren't. I think sometimes Epstein
found his brother irritating.
TODD BLANCHE: And I think I know the
answers, given what you just said about Bill Barr,
but did you ever hear any from Mr. Epstein or
anybody else -- that Bill Barr had any role in
Mr. Epstein getting a good plea deal in Florida, or
any role in that process with Mr. Acosta?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I never heard that.
TODD BLANCHE: I think you said this in an
interview, but if I'm wrong forgive me. Do you have
a view of Mr. Epstein of whether he committed suicide
or whether something else happened?
DAVID MARKUS: Can we take a break?
MAGNA
LEGAL SERVICES
49 (Pages 190 to 193)
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